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Avid Elixir R: A new way to stop

June 21, 2008

Published by Shovelpick


Avid's mission in designing these new brakes was to enhance ride quality, increase power, and improve modulation. They were also able to reduce weight, improve temperature performance and reduce some noise issues with the Juicy line. The Elixir has a new, very sleek look, which is almost a throwback to the days before large reservoirs. But large reservoirs do not improve stopping power or modulation. The real trick is inside the Elixir R lever, which features Avid's all new Taperbore technology.


As soon as these brakes were broken in I was impressed. They deliver a heightened sense of the interaction between the tire and the ground. In a way, they changed the way I rode, and the more I got used to the brakes, the more I liked them. There was a slight learning curve, because I'm used to brakes that skid easily and all the time. With the Elixir, you skid only when you want to. I've ridden approximately 22 separate times on the new brakes so far, including solo sessioning and group rides, riding up and shuttling. Locations I rode include Syncline in Washington, and Post Canyon and Black Rock, in Oregon. Post Canyon the most, since it's my local haunt. I tried to hit all the trails I'm familiar with to compare them to what I was used to. The following movie includes the installation of the brakes at Craig's workshop/pub, 2 days in Black Rock with Craig, and Anna and Jason of IMBA Trail Care Crew, then back to Post Canyon for a top to bottom of Extended Play and my trail, Frankenstein.



Craig, Carl and I headed up to Syncline, near Bingen, WA.


Syncline is a fast, wooded single track that leads out to a cliffside single track, worthy of many vertigo inducing nightmares, and then into a choice of either nice switchback single track or a rocky cliffside decent. We chose the latter. Watch out for rattlers. No joke. The panoramic view of the Columbia River and Oregon on the other side is always worth the trip. Carl was able to get a few nice photos.


Now here are the brakes right out of the box the day they arrived. The brand new G3 rotors are approximately 10-12g lighter than their Juicy predecessor, the G2. I'm running a 185mm on the rear, and the 203mm on the front. Overall, the Elixir is about 20g lighter than the Juicy 7, with a comparable rotor size.


A shift in the pivot location makes the Elixir more controllable, by enabling less initial power and deep stroke modulation, allowing the rider to better manage and use the increased overall power. From the power coming on to complete lock up, the modulation curve of this brake is completely unique. The Elixir features larger pistons, which are grooved to manage heat distribution more efficiently. They also include a large top port for easy access to the brake pads, so you can switch pads without having to remove your wheel. The increased opening allows better airflow through the brakes during operation. This translates to a 10-15 degree temperature difference from previous generation Juicys.


A redesign of the master cylinder incorporates the reservoir around the cylinder, giving it a sleek design and less weight. Rather than a traditional timing port, the Elixir features an o-ring at the end of a push rod assembly into a tapered bore. This provides the Elixir a nearly infinitely variable modulation range.


Day 1:
Right after installation. If the pads look tight against the rotor, it's because they are. There is not a lot of room for a wobbly rotor there. Once they broke in, there was a little bit more room, but you might want to have a Park Tool rotor straightener just in case. Just to shed some light on a common misconception in regards to the Avid pad contact feature (not found on these Elixir R brakes), it does NOT adjust the distance between the pads and the rotor.


Day 24:


Specifications:

Weight: 375 grams (Front Post-Mount 160mm rotor)
System: Two piston, open system
Fluid: DOT 5.1
Features: Tool-free reach adjust, top loading pads, tri-align caliper positioning system, MatchMaker compatible, Drip-free bleeding
Rotor sizes: 160/185/203mm
Colors: Body and Caliper: Mercury Silver, Lever: Tungsten Grey
Available: Carbon blade option

Pricing:

Elixir R w/ 160 rotor: $129/wheel
Elixir R w/ 185 rotor: $133/wheel
Elixir R w/ 203 rotor: 137/wheel

At the end of the day, the Avid Elixir delivered seamless performance, smooth power application and a sleek look. At this price point, you couldn't get a better brake. They would be great on your trick town cruiser or on your DH race rig. These brakes are awesome!

Hope to see these out by Spring '09!

-Miles aka ShovelPick

To learn more about Avid and other products from SRAM, please visit www.sram.com
  • - 19 props
flag almostwise (July 1, 2008 at 2:57) (Below Threshold) show comment
i think they look alright, but whether they'll compare to Hope's performance and feel is anyones guess.
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flag dabomb666 (July 1, 2008 at 5:04) (Below Threshold) show comment
are you serious!?
hope?
10 years ago maybe...
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flag sniggled (July 1, 2008 at 6:31) (Below Threshold) show comment
Hope? More like Hope it works..
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flag adrenaline-rush (July 1, 2008 at 21:05) (Below Threshold) show comment
how r u gonna get the disc in between the pads if they're touching like that??
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flag howden111 (July 1, 2008 at 22:58) (Below Threshold) show comment
They are rather inexpensive
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flag pperini (July 1, 2008 at 3:25) (Below Threshold) show comment
they are the same old discs, what do you care anyway?
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flag dh-pete (July 1, 2008 at 3:34) (Below Threshold) show comment
Wrong, They are G3 disk's not the old G2 disk's you would get on the Juicy range
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flag pperini (July 1, 2008 at 4:26) (Below Threshold) show comment
i know, what i meant is that they look basicaly just the same...
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flag eddiethekid (July 1, 2008 at 3:29) (Below Threshold) show comment
yeahhh Avid seem to have followed the line of Formula there...although thats like slagging off a bloke for looking like Brad Pitt or something! never been a huge fan of Avids...always low on power and seem just too brittle...im running Saints at the moment an im really looking forward to the new ones...dont think these Elixars will be much of a contender in my opinion...but...lets wait and see
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flag the-A-team (July 1, 2008 at 4:35) (Below Threshold) show comment
looks good looking forward to hearing more reviews on it, looks very promising just to clarify these brakes are for fr/dh right?
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flag showpony (July 1, 2008 at 18:49) (Below Threshold) show comment
for anything, i'd suppose. the reviewer is using them for FR/DH, but as they're lighter and lower profile than Juicy 7s, I daresay we'll see a few on XC Rigs as well.
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flag bmxracer62 (July 1, 2008 at 5:54) (Below Threshold) show comment
where can i get those rotors? can i run codes with them?
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flag audeo03 (July 1, 2008 at 11:11) (Below Threshold) show comment
Of course!
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flag bmxracer62 (July 1, 2008 at 12:03) (Below Threshold) show comment
i didnt know i why i wouldnt be able to, but where do i get them?
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flag showpony (July 1, 2008 at 18:49) (Below Threshold) show comment
"Hope to see these out by Spring '09"

That might give you a clue.
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flag derekt (July 1, 2008 at 7:20) (Below Threshold) show comment
those look like they work sooo awsome , new fave break
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flag dirtjumper25 (July 1, 2008 at 7:28) (Below Threshold) show comment
Great Review! I cant wait to buy them!
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flag GVSz (July 1, 2008 at 7:56) (Below Threshold) show comment
I'm sorry, but seriously, my friend tried hopes minis, they broke within three dyas...
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flag sx-ripper (July 1, 2008 at 7:56) (Below Threshold) show comment
im getting sum
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flag dray (July 1, 2008 at 9:23) (Below Threshold) show comment
i wish i could put those on my bottlerocket
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flag fantaman (July 1, 2008 at 9:57) (Below Threshold) show comment
the price is pretty decent if you compare those to the juicy 7's and code.Nice looking brakes
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flag konad (July 1, 2008 at 10:02) (Below Threshold) show comment
juicy syndrome all over them,only avid brake i like is code 5.
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flag audeo03 (July 1, 2008 at 11:14) (Below Threshold) show comment
Why? That makes no sense. The Code is superior to the Code 5...
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flag bkbroiler (July 1, 2008 at 16:00) (Below Threshold) show comment
ultimate levers and code caliper.......
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flag showpony (July 1, 2008 at 18:51) (Below Threshold) show comment
Avid rooooocks!
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flag Evergreen-P (July 1, 2008 at 10:07) (Below Threshold) show comment
look sick and the price is good too
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flag derfmtb (July 1, 2008 at 10:55) (Below Threshold) show comment
them brakes look pretty swisshhh.=]
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flag JakubSJSU (July 1, 2008 at 10:57) (Below Threshold) show comment
Hella sweet video! great trails
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flag dexmaster (July 1, 2008 at 11:14) (Below Threshold) show comment
these look sooo sweet i'm totally down gettin some of these
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flag pattyosullivan (July 1, 2008 at 13:40) (Below Threshold) show comment
i think the codes look better, and im not down with how little room there is between pads and rotor
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flag bigspender55 (July 1, 2008 at 13:54) (Below Threshold) show comment
i want some for my jackel
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flag 3rockrider (July 1, 2008 at 14:20) (Below Threshold) show comment
that video shows some of te gnarliest riding ever seen on pinkbike.those booters are intense.props...
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flag nishnash (July 1, 2008 at 14:32) (Below Threshold) show comment
those are some awesome trails man!!! finally a cheap brake thats good
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flag nishnash (July 1, 2008 at 14:33) (Below Threshold) show comment
how come they are only coming out in 09 i saw adds for them in mba already?
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flag rabbithill (July 1, 2008 at 14:34) (Below Threshold) show comment
looks like a killer brake cant wait to see how they ride
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flag eddleston (July 1, 2008 at 14:35) (Below Threshold) show comment
i bet they are still a bastid to get bled properly
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flag bikeflf (July 1, 2008 at 15:13) (Below Threshold) show comment
i think ill stick with my nines.
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flag showpony (July 1, 2008 at 18:51) (Below Threshold) show comment
ew
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flag freerider2007 (July 1, 2008 at 20:29) (Below Threshold) show comment
but james..u just got your nines and don't even know how they feel quite yet..but my juicy 7's are so powerful, but still nothing can beat my gustav's =]
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flag ilovemanitou (July 1, 2008 at 20:34) (Below Threshold) show comment
you guys are lame, work the hayes purple!
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flag lilwalters (July 2, 2008 at 5:44) (Below Threshold) show comment
hayes nines are such pieces of trash...
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flag stryke (July 1, 2008 at 15:24) (Below Threshold) show comment
how close can you get the lever to the bar with the adjustment provided?
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flag probikerkid (July 1, 2008 at 15:34) (Below Threshold) show comment
lol that really sucks man i agree with eddleston
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flag bkbroiler (July 1, 2008 at 15:59) (Below Threshold) show comment
That dude is at least 225 lb..........I am soooooo stoked on these brakes.....can't wait!
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flag Shovelpick (July 8, 2008 at 16:10) (Below Threshold) show comment
225 lb on the dot
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flag bkbroiler (July 1, 2008 at 16:04) (Below Threshold) show comment
which ones?????
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flag ilovemanitou (July 1, 2008 at 20:33) (Below Threshold) show comment
i hate avid, i love my hayes purple! best brakes ever!
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flag dazem (July 2, 2008 at 8:14) (Below Threshold) show comment
yuk
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flag AqueousBeef (July 2, 2008 at 16:47) (Below Threshold) show comment
These are like Hayes elCaminoes, but they don't suck! Good show, avid. My elcams suck so much...
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flag africana (July 3, 2008 at 8:56) (Below Threshold) show comment
they look alright, but not the best
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flag cchowe03 (July 7, 2008 at 7:21) (Below Threshold) show comment
in my opinion brakes are brakes. it doesnt matter what you have, you get use to it, and you build your riding skills accordingly. Thats part of the fun, stepping out of your comfort zone. Im sure the difference between avid and hayes isnt that extreme, its just what your used to and what you been riding.
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flag slayer1979 (July 11, 2008 at 15:34) (Below Threshold) show comment
hope mon 6 ti. best brake ever, no contest!
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flag Dustinn12 (July 23, 2008 at 10:29) (Below Threshold) show comment
yes there is a huge diffrent i got avid 7 on my bike n its the worst brake i have ever had id rather my hayes mx 2 i got more braking power

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